CK:Its pretty bleak. There has to be some kind of distance applied and minimal standards of what is needed. All of this stuff adds to the vrit of the broadcast, and its stuff you cannot get in a studio in London. All rights reserved. Carlton Kirby discusses the art of commentary, says thank you to those who enjoy listening to him. So poor . There are people who love what I do, and others who hate it, he admits. Nonetheless, one other thing that Kirby believes, sets the very best apart is commitment. Matt Stephens will be Eurosport's dedicated reporter on all Grand Tour coverage, bringing breaking news, updates, and interviews from inside the peloton. Thats because the Tours largest broadcasters are staying at home due to the COVID-19 pandemic, rather than broadcasting the race on-site in France. "Beware everybody, he is well and truly back!" yelled Carlton Kirby on Eurosport commentary. A piece of the petition has gained over 542 signatures demanding the removal of Carlton Kirby from Eurosports, citing Unnecessary Screaming, Terrible Jokes as one of the biggest downsides. Carlton Kirby Kirby is the most marmite commentator there is. Next time you watch, ask yourself how many of his critiques are aimed against non-Anglophone riders. I like Kelly just out of respect more than anything. The demands of media and multimedia these days make it more of a serious problem. Ill be making notes when Sean Kellys driving, which can be a difficult thing! Having spent over 25 years in the field, he has seen a lot, as many other countless commentators have seen. There are many great cycling commentators around at the moment, Im afraid Kirby isnt one of them. For over 20 years, be it the Tour de France, Olympic Games, Monte Carlo Rally or Le Mans 24 Hours, his easy-going manner coupled with incisive commentary and a dramatic edge has made him an audience favourite. Utterly self-absorbed: he had already decided who'd won. Over 3,200 worth of amazing prizes from Pacenti Cycle Design and Saint Piran, including some stunning carbon wheels! I just wish we had Liggett and Kelly doing the Grand Tours. He was hinting today that he would be commentating on Paris-Roubaix (just after he said that Froome was 'over-raced' this year), so I'd be grateful if as many people as possible could comment/vote before it is too late: Mmmmm, unfortunately, the suggested replacement is just as clueless, just quieter. The word count for me at the end is almost blurred.. You must invest in an alarm upgrade to BT Redcare. I changed to German commentary on eurosport international today I was so mad. And hes trying to improve them. Among an awful lot of distractions, as Carlton Kirby explains, commentating on cycling is an arduous process. Kirby has more than two decades as a. Carlton Kirby Kirby is the most marmite commentator there is. And, one can understand the enthusiasm that has kept him going despite the setbacks and even criticism from people. Quite often you are talking while being handed a note, being spoken to by the director, and listening to race radio at the same time as well, says Kirby. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport . It's embarrassing now. OK. And then, we wait. Thats one of the vagrancies of Eurosport.. Pure invention; based on nothing. I heard him doing weightlifting once. So, you have to ask yourself: What is different, and why is it worth it to actually go on-site? She got hit by a car and thats someones mum, not just a cyclist. The sights and sounds of the race and the attention of aptitude in an ample pressroom can renounce some valuable chunks for a commentator. You have your usual office equipment, coffee machine, and sandwich machine. Live blog: "outrageous claims" - Tao Geoghegan Hart lays into Eurosport commentator Carlton Kirby, cyclists blamed for countryside litter - Twitter responds, Colnago e-bike, Jason Kenny, Jeremy Vine on close-passes, TdY teams, Peloton baby + more. Bit harsh, Quigley is a lot more knowledgeable. It easy to forget that before this tour Mark Cavendish, the greatest of all great sprinters, had never beaten Marcel Kittel in a head-to-head. He's probably too much of a joker,not serious enough, but has a 'springy' voice which is good to listen to. Driver escapes punishment for alleged hit-and-run on cyclist, as victim blasts police inaction and barriers to justice. I am very sorry but he is just nowhere near the standards of messrs. Liggett, Boulting, Miller and Hatch. This year alone, we had a Sky rider getting his elbow clipped by a security vehicle when he went for a gap when none existed. What is his cycling background ? He's obsessed with what he thinks is going to happen, preferring baseless speculation to commentating on what is actually happening. There used to be a 35 metre rule which seems to be flouted these days. But, Kirby has to do that, without fail. I like Carlton too, not as much as Harmon, granted, but I've given up on him coming back. Tao Geoghegan Hart (@taogeoghegan) March 25, 2019. He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. What is the point? And suddenly some feel like a part of the race. Owned by Warner Bros. JavaScript is disabled. Are you sure? You might remember an 'interpretive spinning' vid doing the rounds on social media a few weeks ago. Help us to make it better. To cycling fans, Carlton Kirbys voice has become synonymous with the sport, having become an integral part of British Eurosports racecoverage. . The actual bones of the job are quite similar. But saves my life" German governments helmet advert sparks sexism row, Bristol taxi driver who cut up cyclist and braked in front of him has licence revoked (+ video), Porn Pedallers to carry on riding despite being stripped of British Cycling affiliation, in: Car crashes into building - please post your Local news stories, in: Has cycling become F1? Plus security bikes, plus rolling paramedics. (Clarke is a very good rider, but there is nothing to suggest he SHOULD have won the 2016 M-SR. Watch the race.). You also have picture breakdowns, sometimes audio breakdowns so weve got all that going on and we havent even got on to the racing yet!. What you are talking about is a place in history. You always get letters or emails from people who really enjoyed your commentary, but youll always get those who hate every fibre of your being.. Apologies it's in super annoying meme form (we couldn't find the originalsource) but this is too good not too share! Yates was obviously cooked - why else would anyone work for dozens of kilometres and then give up in the final 2km? Kittel moves first into Cavendish, who follows the white line. So, our information can be slightly second-hand. And he wasn't wrong. But there are always other lines to cross, and he just loves collecting these plaudits and the deserved success coming his way is just brilliant. Went for a bike ride earlier today. As well as sports commentary his voiceover work includes corporate videos and feature films as well as radio and television advertising. A lot of these guys seems to have free rein on what they are doing. And it is at that point, Cav comes out of the shadows to mug him at the line. Bridport cycles. 35m is 100ft. No ! Yeah he does. I can walk or drive the technical approach to the finish, which is gold. This afternoon, I yet again, tolerated his insulting drivel on the Dauphine. The moment you have spoken a word, it is out there on tape and on every news website, forum, and who knows what. Kittel was completely shocked, and has been getting more and more upset as this Tour has gone on. Absolutely mad. Carlton Kirby: 'Yates is the heart and mind of this breakaway group'. I comfort myself with the fact that there are people out there who actually hate Terry Wogan. All crescendo sports deserve to be treated as such. It is just crazy the amount of automotive stuff on the go, whether that is cars or motorcycles, that are getting too close to the riders, too often. Would the football fans be subjected to him commentating on the football matches ? Strade Bianche 2023, March 4, one-day classic (men's & women's), 78th Omloop Het Nieuwsblad: February 25, 2023, UAE Tour 2023, February 20-26 (women's race February 9-12), O Gran Camio 2023, Spain, February 23-26, 49th Volta ao Algarve em Bicicleta (2.Pro) // February 15th - 19th 2023, Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne 2023 February 26, 196 km (1.Pro). It is all kinds of stuff. It is not general knowledge, and it should be. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" Eurosport commentator. I quite like Kirby. The walls do move when they pile in too. Among an awful lot of distractions, as Carlton Kirby explains, commentating on cycling is an arduous process. Its windowless. Its quite nice at the Tour de France that we have a roadbook and a history book of everything were going through. We met a young boy and young girl who recently lost their mum, and its really sad when you see that side of it. At least King Kelly is still there despite Harmon's departure. because there wuld be an uprising in the country. Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis, says Carlton Kirby, a principal commentator for Eurosports cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. #GPDenain pic.twitter.com/2DsagK73lS, Wanty-Gobert Cycling Team (@TeamWantyGobert) March 24, 2019. I think this is what is powering Marks mind at the moment. So, what is Scottish Cycling / British Cycling doing about this? join Outside+. Nah, Harmon is clued up. Stay tuned! To cycling fans, Carlton Kirby's voice has become synonymous with the sport, having become an integral part of British Eurosport's race coverage. Advertising, commercial: sales [at] road.cc For no reason. You have got to be kidding! You can get every picture you need from in front of the peloton. On the descent, motorbikes often get too close to the cyclist in front of them. As a small example, he started talking to Magnus Backstedt about tyre widths the other day ("weren't you the 27 mm guy?") There have always been deaths since the early 1900s from vehicle-related incidents. When youre part of the race caravan, all you talk about is the race. and apologises to those who don't. 00:04:00, 29/05/2020 at 08:52 Related That is because like most hacks they are too arrogant to do any research and preparation. Eurosport is a group of pay television networks in Europe and parts of Asia. Arriving at road.cc in 2017 via 220 Triathlon Magazine, Jack dipped his toe in most jobs on the site and over ateBikeTips before being namedthe new editor of road.cc in 2020, much to his surprise. They seem to think that it is enough to just talk about english speaking riders, or to 'emote' any time there is a crash, or a difficult corner. Carlton Kirby is one of the successful names in the industry, recently had been a topic of gossip for good and bad reasons. Kirby is a shockingly bad commentator, but Harmon is not much better. You have to say who they are, where they are on the road, what colour theyre in and call the tactics and often all within 30-45 seconds of sheer hell and manic action. Don't miss a moment from Paris-Roubaix and Unbound Gravel, to the Giro dItalia, Tour de France, Vuelta a Espaa, and everything in between when you Thanks to all who have signed. VN:When youre at the race, who are you talking to regularly to get your intel for the broadcast? i like the stuff the two GCN guys do, is it dan Loyd and Matt Stephens? Carlton's voice is familiar to fans of Motorsports and Cycling both on British Television and throughout the world. Carlton Kirby: What inspired Chris Froome's golden era Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby analyses Chris Froome's performance in winning a fourth Tour de France. And somebody asked me, why dont you pronounce his name Foo-gel-sang instead ofFoolsong. ). Terms and conditions of use. Can you at least extend our premium subscriptions so we can play all races, until you fix the issue? Mark Cavendish crossed the line first, and said Kittel came up to slap him in the back. You can also sometimes find your hotel is one or two hours away. Helen Blackman (@HelenBlackman) March 24, 2019. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" For god's sake grow up the man's just doing his job some of it good, some of it bad Is it my imagination or has there been more talk about commentators than cycling on here recently? Were literally opening up Sean Kellys cranium to learn the nuances of the sport, and he comes out and says which guy is going to go on and win the next day. Commentating during the 2022 Ronde with 222km to go, Kirby says: Aranburu could have finished as high as 5th in Milan-Sanremo, but didnt think it was worth his while so he eased off at the end and came in 13th. I think people will appreciate what were trying to deal with. I am having this problem too. We had a heated debate about the incident and then the person drove away. All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week, Thomas De Gendt bosses Volta a Catalunya opener and solos into 3-minute overall lead. To show no fear is the best skill of all. Even my partner, who doesn't watch cycling, could tell who had won. #cycling @carltonkirby whatsonreading.com Carlton Kirby True Tales of the Tour de France | What's On Reading We will never sell your data and you'll only get messages from us and our partners whose products and services we think you'll enjoy. While folk littering with gel wrappers is no doubt annoying, is it really up there with fly-tipping? Minutes later, Sean Kelly points out that Padun is 'not getting around the corners well not comfortable whatsoever on the descent'. Kirby continues to put his notes togetheronce hearrives at the commentary booth, reading the local press andKellys grasp of colloquial French coming into its own. Following a two year broadcasting secondment with the United Nations in the South Pacific he joined ITV as TVam's overnight Sports Producer and Reporter. And we have managed to cover his view on it. As for the Sky Team Fans member - you wouldnt actually be Mr Kirby would you ???? It was a dreadfully high price to pay in my opinion to high but the suffering couldnt go on. The road curved, but it was nothing to concern one's self with. Mrs John Murphy May 3, 2010 2,662 0 0 Aug 26, 2011. At least he can string a sentence together and he seems to bring good comments out of Backstedt. All rights reserved. We have to get him off eurosport. Carlton Kirby: No matter if youre in a mobile unit at the finish, or in a studio with air conditioning and a coffee machine, youre doing the same thing, the view out the window is just different. Thus, the commentary that you hear wont come from the finish line, but rather from some television studio thousands of miles away. Proper all rounder. 1/9/22 4.2km to go, Stage 12 Vuelta a Espana: the riders are going uphill.Kirby: as they get to this step, but it doesnt last long, its like your mums old step, give it a polish, give it a clean and then a clean pair of heels to everybody else. Carlton learnt his trade as a commentator in Motorsport and Speedway while the holy trinity of Phil Ligget (ITV), David 'Duffers' Duffield (Eurosport) and Hugh Porter (BBC) had all the cycling tied up between them. By using this website, you agree to our use of cookies. 14 Aug 2020. The best thing you can do is relax, in my opinion, Kirby explains about going live on air. All of that is avoidable if you have the right distance and the right protocol in place. My primary issue with Carlton Kirby is that he doesn't commentate on what is happening (he rambles whatever is inside his head). For example, I know that Jakob Fuglsangs last name means bird song, which is a nice little thing. The headline does anyway, while the sources in the article cover a few different potential causes. People were saying track preparation knocks you back for the sprint because it is a different form of physicality that is needed. 4th in last year's Giro d'Italia. Mark is already the greatest sprinter there has ever been. Juan Antonio Flecha and Johnny Hoogerland were sent into barbed wire on the Tour de France because the France TV van was about to hit a tree having a run out of road, but took the softer option of the riders. It is really sad when you see the consequences of that. I don't know the guy but I wish in netherlands we would do it with mart smeets, danny nelissen and herbert dijkstra, who are complete idiots. Theres so much stuff going on because in front of us for starters, we have live timing, results sheets, stage profiles, live pictures, alternative live pictures and a sub-monitor with the schedule. The commentators day doesnt juststart when the racing does, with research and planning underwayas soon as breakfast is taken. And anybody who has watched one unfold on TV will recognise the frantic speed of the commentary as the race reaches its climax. It is not just the press core looking for pictures for the following day. During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. Get the latest race news, results, commentary, and tech, delivered to your inbox. Eurosport's Carlton Kirby. As we reported at the time, the six-time Olympic champion tweeted that he had been on a Sunday bike ride with his son when they were almost run over by a van driver who drove at us, then proceeded to angrily inform me it was my fault we nearly died.. Astonishingly though, a single stage of the Tour de France lasts for about more than six hours. How can someone who watches so much cycling know so little? Kirby says he opens the Tours road book (the bible for riders and media alike) first and foremost, having to change all of the notes to match his commentary notes and the on-screen graphics counting down the kilometres, rather than up as the book does. I've also been known to drag washing machines behind the bike and throw them down embankments, along with piles of grass clippings, black bags of household rubbish and several hubcaps. So many other cycling commentators on Eurosport. But Mark Cavendish says no: what the track does is make you think fast, it makes you think within a very tight set of circumstances. Well then I propose a CN forum audio livestream for the tour de france. 2008present unless otherwise stated. They race ahead, dismount to get the tracking shots they need of the riders. hatcher - are you Harmon's mum? He came off the corner leading, it was a right hand to the finish in Villars-les-Dombes. As for Kirby - its the arrogance of the bloke - does he think his viewers are 10 year olds who know NOTHING about cycling. I think there seems to be a bad feeling against cyclists and its really strange because theyre only people, he continued. Theres no doubt about it, the most difficult thing to do is cover nothing, he says. These local mountain bikers tried Athletic Brewing Company's craft beer for the first time, and you'd be surprised by their reactions. I can't understand why Eurosport need to use him when they gave at least four other knowledgeable commentators, even without Harmon. pic.twitter.com/bcRWeK1p3o, just merder. Creativelyreplacing it witha Trek 1.2, Jack mostly rides this bikearound local cycle paths nowadays, but when he wants to get the racer out and be competitive hispreferred events are time trials, sportives, triathlons and pogo sticking - the latter being another long story. As you say, he doesn't shout unnecessarily either. His voice tends to wake me up from my nap when something happens. Hence, To be qualified to fill up that huge amount of time is, quite naturally, a daunting job. Kittel is still the fastest guy out there, but when he turns on the taps there is going to be a point when his maximum capacity starts to diminish. We dont want this man commentating. And to be honest, most of us are scared of losing Carlton Kirkby in case Ant McCrossan takes his place. Once they pass by, they have to repass the peloton to get the shots they want later on. For me, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week. From the Eurosports studios in London, covering the tour is not the same as waiting at the finish line. Such things impact ones reputation a lot, and there is no way around it. A new bike is coming very soon! Whilst im not Carltons biggest fan (prefer Backstead w Harmon) I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. The commentary line-up will include regular voices Rob Hatch and Carlton Kirby, who will also joined by cycling legend Sean Kelly at all three major races. But try explaining that to Cycling Weekly and their letters column.. Rob Hatch is apparently also good but he doesnt do very much that I've seen. Tom Owen vents his fury after cycling blogger highlights verbal abuse on Box Hill, Geraint Thomas returns as domestique in experienced nine-man line-up, Summit finishes dominate opening fortnight with potentially pivotal time trial in final week, The best of the gear that's dropped into RCUK over the last couple of weeks, One carbon bike and two alloy models for 2016 'cross campaign from Chain Reaction Cycles' in-house bike brand.
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