It's a violent as hell culture created for a single purpose: victory. The single most respectful moment in Terezis portrayal is when she has the opportunity to have her blindness cured. As Zhens, who also goes by Z, crusade grows, she continues to grapple with the responsibility that comes with inspiring such a snowballing movement. I haven't seen a single person defend Zebruh. Every single one of those tags appears somewhere in the story, including but not limited to: unhealthy relationships, graphic depictions of violence, transphobia, rape, major character death, and (may God help us all) eggs. I like my complaints like I like my inception, always going one level deeper. But Hussie questions those practices as a form of fandom, and redefines what the word really means today. What is this threat? Elwurd, who was allegedly based on the bi girlfriend of a male developer. The figure of revolution in the eyes of Hussies story is in fact, an influencer. Even if you make the argument that karkat and vriska are technically adults now, we only saw that in the epilogue. Who is this detective? Its at this point that the epilogues diverge into two: a Meat timeline for the former and a Candy timeline for the latter. I tend prefer Jade when she has as at least milligram of agency, but, again, sorry I liked her in the first place, I guess. Both options ultimately leave someone somewhere dissatisfied. 36.87%. The mock content warnings that show up at the beginning of the epilogues are not mock anything In Meat, the story blasts through at a lightning pace, but the characters we love get thrown into the background as the story concerns itself more and more with Dirk and Calliope. I don't agree with the original doc, but yes, OP wrote a terribly annoying post. Besides, I covered my opinions on incest above. While he declined to be quoted directly, he feels that the video missed important contextualization that he had intended to provide to the YouTuber in a conversation. Lynera is literally stalking Bronya, trying to control her relationships, and threatening those who get inbetween. I read the links, and I don't see it. While its about revolution, its told in a refreshingly modern and relevant way. Oh come on, he jsut made a joke. All throughout friendsim, theyve been joking about being too problematic for the kicks, trying to make light of their own faults. I perhaps havent heard from Jane fans because they dont really exist, but you get my point. At this point in the web-comic, they fix Tavros. Alternia, at least at first, is a dark joke about our real-world society. And then that ability comes in handy when the eight kids and the original players lose the game again. Tumblr community vs. every other community. In the final act of Homestuck were told the artifact defeats Lord English, and were told he dies after getting sunk in a black hole. Also, (controversy incoming) in my honest opinion, as long as you don't have children, there's nothing wrong about incest. Shraddha Walkar, Nikki Yadav: Why the coverage of crimes against women is problematic; Shraddha Walkar, Nikki Yadav: Why the coverage of crimes against women is problematic When such murders are headlined with the term live-in, the choice of the victim to cohabitate with a partner takes precedence over the criminal act of the offender Dirk uses his position as the author to berate characters he doesnt like. I will just go ahead and read through the Google Docs about Hussie being terrible and comment every time I have something to say. I don't see it. The solid sales performance also lifted the food retailer's profit margins. Can't say I ever noticed. But the Song of Ice and Fire series is twice as long by wordcount, and that's not even finished. Be prepared. The outfits Jade is wearing is her outfit she wore when she was 13, implying her age in the art. https://www.homestuck.com/story/5571 https://www.homestuck.com/story/5701 https://www.homestuck.com/story/5732. This has of course produced some backlash within the community. So the patient reader will forgive me for not putting more effort into recapping the story. There is no denying that. Point 3: Homestuck is not delicate or child friendly. Was it really an insult? His comic, Homestuck, published under the website MS Paint Adventures, followed a group of teens who accidentally brought about the end of the world with a copy of a video game. A cryptid leader leaves a major vacuum of content, direction, messaging, personal information, all the stuff a frenzied cultist craves. And when she tries to get better she says fuck it and focuses all this on the player instead. So naturally I made a post "complaining" about how there were more people complaining about how there were more people complaining about people complaining about the Caucasian thing than there were people complaining about the Caucasian thing than there were people complaining about people complaining about the Caucasian thing. Will they ever cease? A subreddit for Homestuck and the works of Andrew Hussie. What was the point of Homestuck? And then they play it. And she decides what gets put in front of our eyes and what doesnt. How the hell do people extrapolate that? Pedophilia and incest in one fell swoop. As of now, recordings of the content exist on YouTube and are embedded where the Flash animations used to be, but take it from me when I say its really not the same. It also has an unprecidented degree of fan interaction laced throughout the comic, with readers being invited in through suggesting actions, names, and other content; producing art and music; and headcanons later 'canonised' or 'debunked'. I asked Hussie if he thinks everyone should just log off. We are currently experiencing a system-wide issue with a delay on all activations. So Im almost made to feel bad for even entertaining John/Roxy as an idea in the first place if the results were to be this disastrous for everyone involved. Hussies apprehension of fandom and the wild projections that come with presiding over one seem appropriate given how public comments on his work ignite controversy within the fandom. Homestuck is a product of its time, and even if it wasnt the characters presented are all socially inept children, so of course some weird stuffs Gonna come out their mouth. And the world ends. Which is a lesson Jake needed to learn in the comic more generally, to be fair, but not while hes an abuse victim. Terezi wanted them to be "L1K3 4 Wwwwowwwwwww. This is not so much directed at you, fiveforchaos, but since this sort of misconception comes up frequently I figured I might as well step in. Also this sexual line of chixies (just grab my bulge and deepthroat it). Vriska herself is a huge controversy (i.e. used to say caucasian before it was changed to peachy). Or is Nepeta actually autistic? Yeah, we all have seen that one before. In December of last year, St. Paul Mayor Melvin Carter proposed raising the citys sales tax rate by one percent in order to pay for street maintenance and parks. "umm that karkat is problematic? Especially assholes brazen enough to supply your own thoughts to you with a subtle perspective shift from first to second person. Maybe the epilogues are in part supposed to make us feel what its like to have to balance plot-driven meat with fluffy, character-driven candy and, even after years of practice, to still feel like youve come up short. WebPhillip Faraone/Getty Images. Mainstream content producers can afford to turn a blind eye to smaller copyright infringements (though they can and do take steps to stop them when they are made aware of them!) Homestuck has never shied away from cartoonish gore and bloodshed before, but ironically, what the epilogues lack in pictures they make up for in graphic content. Why else would he made the prison comment? Volume 18 comes with a developer warning, showing fully that theyre aware of how fucked up this is. Why it matters: Silvergate had an unusually strong balance sheet but that wasn't enough to save it because in today's high-rate Likewise Mindfang's joyous rape-and-murder spree of a memoir is discussed in text (And it's never graphic. Tavros treatment in homestuck is also disgusting, in all honesty. But those with more of an anti-cult stance, which describes myself, will occupy the position reluctantly.. Although dogfighting is a felony in all 50 states and the District of Columbia, Guam, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands, it continues to occur in every part of the country and in every type of community. Whatever. A particularly long entry in a book series can get up to 200 thousand words. I dont know what to say or think about any of this at this point. Submit fanart, cosplay and discussions of all kinds! There are these four kids: John, Rose, Dave, and Jade. Point 1: Homestuck is 'problematic' in the way that many people are beginning to dislike. But each one is again key to understanding the story being told, fully integrated into comic. If not for the fact they made her into a Jewish stereotype. Theres even a page that compels the reader to take selfies and post them on social media. In real life, if they have the option to choose their rate of fire, professionals like to stick to single-fire mode. The language is deeply rooted in the now, and leans into the internet vernacular with words like simp, e-girls, reply guys, and cringe. At one point, one of the protagonists moves from being a fan, to dating a member of the popular K-pop group BTS (which also happens to be one of the biggest, most influential fandoms of the moment). Wait, Meenah is black now? She also rapes Jake. Perhaps youll click the first. Troll Jewish would have been a great addition! true wait, what? Since my social justice related posts seem to encourage more discussions than ones that do not rely on social justice critique, I figured I would use this next post to explore a very talked-about and controversial aspect of Homestuckits ableism. Eventually, she goes on to write a widely read manifesto; taking the reins of a militant revolutionary group that wears goth clown makeup. When the question is sprung up and no one is correcting the fans till that point, you can tell its just an on the spot decision. Reading Homestuck is no easy feat, and will take a large amount of time. Welcome to Alternia. This is that second one though. You have a staunch policy of trusting pretentious assholes on the Internet. She, like Dirk, and like all authors, decides what is relevant and what isnt. Streamers have to become increasingly savvy about the need to defend personal boundaries without provoking the ire of fans. There's just about one for every group. Why it matters: Silvergate had an unusually strong balance sheet but Quite a bit of it, has, unfortunately landed on rachel, who if I recall correctly, is in charge of a lot of the business decisions, or at least enforcing them. On the other hand, Terezi Pyropethe second character with a disability in Homestuckis blind. When users affected by the problem try to access the DISH network system, all they get is a System is currently Id Id tell you more about them, but the comic doesnt at all bother to develop this cool idea in the slightest. I can come to my own conclusions. I just had no idea until you told me just now. Fueled by this power, Dirk plans to leave the comic entirely to head to a place where his thoughts and his actions always have weight, regardless of what is canon and what isnt. Regardless, the intense gaze of the man in the thumbnail dares you to go on and see what the hell this is all about. To him, a reluctant cult leader will withdraw from the spotlight and rarely address their followers. What Hussie describes is a dynamic that we see play out again and again online. I'd never had a Fruit Gusher. to clarify my stance im a big homestuck fan im a big fan of toby foxs work im criticizing people who think homestuck is "too problematic" but think toby is "good and clean and safe" hes just as fucked up as the rest of us /pos. Towards the end of the main story, the comic introduces (and fails to develop) the idea of the Ultimate Self: characters with full knowledge and the full lived experiences of every character that has ever existed. Not every country has black stereotypes that are the same. And then the monsters came. And then they got in a rocket.. First, Tavros Nitram is treated abhorrently in Homestuck; his disability (he is in a wheelchair, paralyzed from the waist down) is oftentimes depicted in a hilarious way to try and make the audience laugh. Hussie suggests the personal allegorical elements in Psycholonials are more like points of inspiration. This story is about Z after all, not himself. Id post a sample here if reading my old work didnt literally set me on fire. As for Karkat using "autistic" as an insult did he really? With the source of his partial-paralysis being Vriska, he is tormented by her and others on occasion for his disability. Actually, my favorite thing about the webcomic: Homestuck is acutely aware that it exists on the Internet, and exploits that fact to its fullest capacity. Homestuck fan here, Last year, the worlds S.U.V.s collectively released almost a billion metric tons of carbon dioxide. The solid sales performance also lifted the food retailer's profit margins. The Candy author on the other hand, represented by Calliope, cares little for if whats happening on screen is important or not. ships, god tier classpect theories, and vriska seem to be the biggest controversies. 1.4K Takers Personality Quiz. In any case, for Tavros and Terezi, I will discuss separately their problematic treatment both inside the web-comic and in the fandom. Please/You're welcome: (para-kah-LOE) In Greek, the word for "please" and "you're welcome" is the same, making it all the more easy to learn. Albeit, important, weighty fanfiction elevated by the very fact they exist on homestuck.com and not on myI mean someonesGoogle Docs account locked away somewhere, but fanfiction nonetheless. Its digitally illustrated and lets you click through like you would in a narrative game. All that being said, and the despite the two months its been since the epilogues first came out, I dont think I have an opinion on them that can be reduced to I liked them or I hated them. The Google docs had like 2 or 3 good points and the rest is just bullshit. Hearing that person use the word r*****ation made me so uncomfortable because r**ard is a slur and shouldnt be used no matter what. Vriska and Terezi were close friends during their childhood, who on Alternia formed the Scourge Sisters, Team Charge's FLARP rivals. And then theres this punch-card based, bit-wise inventory system that they exploit to make whatever they want in the game. Could things have been done differently for better effect? In 2012, around 24,000 backers pledged roughly $2 million to help bring Hiveswap, a video game version of the Homestuck, to life. Because that's how they are treated on Alternia. The counterargument to this is that John, the only character who is 100% confirmed to be canonically straight is very frequently paired with Dave and Karkat. The end credits and post-end credits content were released in the style of Snapchat posts. and this is the code I use "Index.blade.php" WebMarch 3, 2023. And then theres this whole other universe filled with aliens, Trolls, who already played it. And in this one Mituna himself just kind of sexually harrasses Meenah. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. However, back when HS was being written, it was OK to say the word. $24.00. While the kickstarter itself was controversial due to how much money it raised, despite Hussie having never made a game before. Maybe it would help if I knew what "AAVE" is, though. We apologize for this "Queer Eye" star Karamo Brown recently told INSIDER that he thinks the beloved film about a gay relationship, " Call Me by Your Name ," is "problematic as f---." Copyright issues; unlike many, more mainstream content producers who kind of give convention artists alleys the big shrugaroo, Hussie, as a small buisness owner, is very strict about people selling fanmade Homestuck content. It is compelling, funny, genre-busting contemporary art. Post-Scratch Troll society is not presented as good. Question: Hey hiveswap team and @skullmandible, confirm Lanque as a trans boy yes/no? Yes. I know there are more, I'll update this list when I remember them. and the other half is him being completely oblivious to what the original poster means. WebThis process, known as review-bombing, has been used for both good and bad causes. 36.87%. WebWhy Homestucks Disaster of an Epilogue was so Bad 9,982 views Jul 7, 2019 330 Dislike Share Skooter 58 subscribers Omg I started this April this took me like 3 and a half months sksksskks. They show up literally once in the background of a page and a few times during the final fight(s). Homestuck uses Flash, which means that it has Webi do think there is a lot to say on why homestucks fanbase is (to put it bluntly) so transgender in such a specific and interesting way. Peachy is a better joke anyway (because fruits). Just more things: more plot, more dialogue, more mechanics, more characters, more questions, on and on and on and on until it just runs out of breath and falls over. The self-ingratiating, self-referential, over-indulgent drivel that poured onto the page? Im more interested in what the story has to say about authorship generally than I am in the particularities of Dirk as a villain, though. The only challenge to his control over the story is presented by Calliope, the dead, all-powerful sister to Lord English I mentioned earlier. Vriska. Homestuck itself. Everyone ends up miserable, the worst version of themselves. that's all i'm saying. And then theres Cronus, a 19 year old, hitting on his dead descendant who is also 13. It seems that whatever small ways I was able to control that brand, back when I still was interested in doing so, has since become dramatically overwritten by the preposterous hallucinatory projections of a zealous fandom.. Not in the game, so I don't care. In a personal sense, this story is an odd fusion of two allegories. Even worse, Hussie confirming dersecest to be a canon ship in a doomed timeline in the most recent homestuck book, which is better explained in this post. TSP problem is a classical problem since 1832 [from wiki]. The content vacuum created by a cryptid leader results in overwhelming conditions of parasociality, and the projections of personality, morality, and biographical data onto the blank-slate leader can get ludicrous, and often pretty spiteful. I saw a lot of promise in Johns relationship with Roxy. After around the half-way mark she stops being important, so I was excited to see if she gets any big moments in the epilogues. If you dont write often and consequently dont think of story length in terms of word count (what are you, a normal person? The implosion of Silvergate Bank has a lot to do with the fact that it was crypto's bank of choice. An otherwise slumbering fandom ignited as people filled Reddit forums with speculation. Ardata literally has a red room esque set up, where she tortures trolls that she has caged in her hive. But understanding that Psycholonials is chiefly an anti-cult narrative should help point to how I view the Homestuck phenomenon. Good job. It spent its last moments introducing characters and mechanics only to turn around and not explain jack. It can be a turn in the story they dont like, the way a fictional character is treated, or the way other members of fandom they disagree with are behaving. The NSFW route, hes a complete douchewad, bullying Lynera and trying to pressure you into drugs and sex. It is problematic in that it presents characters with unlikeable traits in a positive light, problematic in the way it jokes about very serious subjects like abuse and murder, problematic in that it includes discriminatory language throughout the text, problematic in that oodles of teased ships are 'creepy' due to the age and/or percieved age and/or other factors Problematic like The Iliad, like Hannibal, like The Wire, like, The Shining, Lolita, Dracula, and so many other pieces of classic media. And thats just me. No one needs me to tell anyone this, but stories can always serve as reminders.. Wait, not having a shirt on is sexual now? Hi. Chances are Hussie changed it in part because he wasn't really feeling the joke in the first place. Please also read our Privacy Notice and Terms of Use, which became effective December 20, 2019. And then John implies that its maybe Jakes fault for letting it get as bad as it did? Can you imagine what my first attempts at writing looked like? I know that Im asking questions, and sometimes thats good enough. People have clamored for us to produce high quality cosplay-ready horns for years, ever since I began working at WP. Just don't think it's safe for your thirteen-year-old brother just 'cause the protagonist is the same age xDD. Homestuck directly lead me to writing as much as I do now. Why it matters: Silvergate had an unusually strong balance sheet but that wasn't enough to save it because in today's high-rate We are currently experiencing a system-wide issue with a delay on all activations. As he comes to better understand and accept himself for who he is, the homophobia fades from his vocabulary, he opens up to people, and allows more of his vulnerabilities to show though. Energy transfers to keep her alive are sexual now, I guess You get assaulted by a lot of trolls. Oh, and all troll sex is incest by human standards. The Meat author, portrayed here by Dirk, is hyper-focused on moving the plot forward. Imagine flipping through one book that size. We were weirdly concerned with fundamental narrative principles at the time, more so than little kids had any right to be. WebAnswer random questions and Ill give you a Lana del ray lyric that will reveal a deep truth about you. Two friends who realize they see each other as something more I live for that kind of stuff when its done right. Webit has some stuff that aged poorly and is very typical of the comedy and internet culture at the time that it was written. The language used might seem lamentable to a young person today, but much of Homestuck is a product of its time. To beat the game, they have to interact with the game worlds characters, and with a disgruntled group of internet trolls. In its heyday, the Homestuck fandom iterated and developed a lot of cultures that have come to characterize fandom today. Taken from this page , here is a brief overview of ableism, how it impacts persons with disabilities, and its negative role in society. I'm not really interested in Thermian arguments; trolls aren't real, Hussie created them that way for a reason. Im going to pretend that sentence made sense, youre going to pretend I didnt just gloss over a ton of story development right there, and were all just going to move on. Oh that's what you meant. I have no official connection with the work. This applies to the treatment of Mituna, who due to the overexertion of his psychic powers received brain damage that altered his personality. Point 1.5: Many of the arguments presented in the document hinge on the idea that inclusion means approval (see Point 1). Smarter bloggers have tried and failed. Still, he said that the text works as a thematic followup to his entire experience with building a fandom. I am pretty sure you weren't meant to like her doing that. After all (Vriska)'s whole personality changed. But then again, being straight is also like a fetish to trolls. The few legitimate criticisms that arent nitpicks or blind virtue signaling arent even all that damning. Some controversy came from the fact that two people donated 10,000 dollars to it to essentially have their fan characters get 1 panel cameos in the comic. cough Cronus cough. This is silly on a few levels. that is my mission, and that is why you can't fucking stand me. As underage drinking is a touchy subject for myself personally im not very inclined to go through the route in detail but, underage drinking. In the spirit of using the Internet as a medium, the epilogues were released in the style of an AO3 post. From $14.00 End Pose Print. On revolution, telling stories, and logging off. because their revenue is huge and governed by much more than direct sales. Please attribute any perceived bias as poor phrasing on my part, rather than a statement of opinion. Yes, but so are the men. Homestuck feels like a glorified, expensive, vaguely ornery version of my childhood game. I didn't even know that there is a stereotype until now. I wish more people could tell the difference between art and the artist. He is best known as the creator of Homestuck, a multimedia webcomic presented in the style of a text-based graphical adventure game, as well as other works in a similar style that were hosted on Please our crops are dying Cohen: yep! WebMost toxic K-Pop fandoms include ARMY (BTS), EXO (EXOTIC), Twice (Once), and more. Its a story that grows up with the Internet itself, and, by extension, a story about the Internet, how it changes, how we change it, and how it changes us. Homestuck has always pushed the boundaries in some regards but it is also a product of the inherent freedom of speech awarded to an internet based medium, failing to see this while reading though it is staggering honestly.